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wickham43
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I have been able to contact my friend using his IP address and wigiHQ.exe but he cannot call me. I have gone to the command prompt, typed ipconfig and seen my IP address which has two sets of three numbers then two single numbers like 123.123.1.1 whereas his IP address has four sets of three numbers. I also have a Gateway address of four sets of three numbers but this does not allow hin to call me. I have a Belkin router. This shows the same IP address like 123.123.1.1 Where is my IP address shown with four sets of three numbers? |
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Dajavoodoo
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Try the website What is my IP. There is a chance that your router is the problem. With Wigi HQ it seems that no one can contact me, I always have to call them - something to do with the NAT firewall. |
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denDwaler
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http://www.danasoft.com follow this link to find your ip.  |
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Willem
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Hello Wickam. Welcome to this forum. An IP address consists just of 4 sets of numbers. Like 210.166.1.10 or 84.55.1.1 At system command level you can use: ipconfig /all Better to check with a browser: http://www.whatismyip.com/ that one will give you your needed WAN-IP address. Perhaps you also need to portforward UDP port 43690. Willem |
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Rene
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wickham43 wrote: I have been able to contact my friend using his IP address and wigiHQ.exe but he cannot call me. Hi Wickham - best wishes for 2006! The IP number you need to use is probably not shown using ipconfig, you need to know the "outside" IP number (I am guessing you have a NAT router or similar, not familiar with the belkin) You might use http://www.watismijnip.nl/ To show your outside IP. (hope it works outside holland as well - there are various websites like this). Furthermore, port 43690 needs to be forwarded in the router, otherwise you are unreachable anyway. Typically the port must be forwarded to the inside IP number of you PC - this is the one you find in IPconfig. Don't worry about the numbers - what you expect to see is 4 groups of numbers, each number between 0 and 255 ("FF" in hex). (so a single number is very well possible) Edit: I love this forum! I see a single call for help, type my answer - and in the time it took to type it, several other (possibly better  ) answers came in. Is this forum alive or what!Last edited on Mon Jan 2nd, 2006 10:41 am by Rene |
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wickham43
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Thanks - I will get him to try it. But he is in NZ so probably asleep now. The IP given was nothing like the IP given by ipconfig! Good video - better than Skype, much better than Festoon but same as Spontania. |
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Willem
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Well, Spontania can give a decent picture, but the definition of video is more than pictures. Photosharing is not video Try out the speed of Wigiwigi, moving and waving. Willem |
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denDwaler
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I changed my signature, in a way everyone must be able to see his own ip. Whe have a member who did that before. But it was gone after the forum changes. But it fills in a 'need' here. |
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Camsam
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which connection do you have ...cable, dsl, ...? if you run over a proxy then the websites (what IP dot com and so on) will be shown the ISP proxy IP !!! about routers and firewalls see here (follow the useful link there and you will find then the Belkin router ) |
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wickham43
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Another question please. In my Belkin router options I have Application Gateways and Virtual Servers - which do I use for port 43690? Is it TCP or UDP? If it is in Application Gateways, what is the trigger port? Virtual Servers gives LAN IP address (my internal IP that I found in ipconfig), Protocol type TCP or UDP or both, LAN port (I don't think this applies) and Public port (43690). |
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wickham43
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Since I have already had several good calls, perhaps I do not need to open port 43690, the problem was that I could call my friend because I knew his IP but he could not call me because I did not know my IP. |
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Willem
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Please read the above post of mine. It said clearly UDP port 43690. No trigger port needed, but your router's manual should be of any help. There are too much differences. LAN port applies! it should be your LOCAL IP if you are on a LAN. Note: The one who is calling does not need a forwarded port, the one who is receiving does. Willem Attached Image (viewed 396 times): |
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wickham43
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My Belkin info lists my external IP address, it was one of the many others and shown as WAN IP. Note: The one who is calling does not need a forwarded port, the one who is receiving does. I did not realise that, but since he did not know my IP address that was the main reason for failure. LAN port applies! it should be your LOCAL IP if you are on a LAN. This is confusing me. So if I enter the following in Virtual Servers it should be right? LAN IP address 192.168.2 (this is shown already) and I enter 1 in the box to complete the address Protocol: UDP LAN port: should this be 1 to complete my local IP 192.168.2.1 or 43690? The window will not accept the full IP of 192.168.2.1 Public port: 43690 |
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Rene
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wickham43 wrote: My Belkin info lists my external IP address, it was one of the many others and shown as WAN IP. If somebody "calls" you - your WAN (external) IP is used. Now your Belking is required to transport the incoming stuff to port 43690. The Belkin needs to transport the data to your PC - but which one? You need to tell your Belkin to which internal (LAN) IP the stuff is to be delivered. (LAN IP's are like internal telephone numbers in e.g. an office; the WAN IP is comparable to the company telephone number the "outside" customers are using) Attached the settings I use. I employ 4 computers in my house, with LAN IP's ranging 192.168.123.101 to 104. My hobbyroom PC is 103 obviously. If there is no place to add the port number 43690, *all* ports are forwarded to the indicated IP no. This also works, but is a lot less secure. My Speedtouch home modem worked this way, and is now replaced by the Tornado 840 of which the screenshot is made. Hope this helps! Attachment: Lan.JPG (Downloaded 271 times) Last edited on Mon Jan 2nd, 2006 03:11 pm by Rene |
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Willem
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The given screenshot tells how it should be on a linksys router, you can clearly see what is preset and what you should fill in. The WAN IP is your address to the outside world, so that the outside world can contact you and the router needs to now where on the LAN is has to send the data from the forwarded port. |
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wickham43
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The confusing thing about Belkin is that there are three windows. LAN IP is the one like your's: 192.168.2.1; the public port is 43690 but there is another box for LAN port. I think this refers to a physical port like a com port or a printer port so I have just put in 1 there at present and will test with my contact tomorrow. |
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Rene
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If I understand correctly, the Belkin distinguishes between public ports (WAN) and Private ports (for LAN). This is useful if multiple computers / servers need to be reached by multiple users from the outside. You do not want that - just enter 43690 both for public and private (or whatever name they use) I can fire up WigiHQ if you like. (otherwise try Ben or Willem - they are always on duty 24/7/365 - they really never sleep  )IP is in the sig. If all fails - just make a screenshot of the configuration screen. |
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wickham43
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My NZ contact has woken up, he cannot call me but I can call him. I've set my Belkin router to my IP address 192.168.2.1 and both LAN ports and public ports to 43690 but still no good.  |
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Camsam
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hi wickham43 you wrote: My NZ contact has woken up, he cannot call me but I can call him. which model of Belkin router do you have ...number? ask your partner which connection, router, firewall is in use ...and hope his firewall allow the outgoing for Wigi |
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Royboy Member 
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Hello everyone, i am Wickham's NZ contact, do not use router so not having any problems at all receiving. Son inlaw in Netherlands has router so will need all this useful info when he decides to use Wigi. Excellent software and support forum. ...oh by the way how do i keep IP address updated for other members to contact me, at the moment i copy & paste IP everytime i come online.....Roy. NZ. IP 203.118.141.61 |
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bengtisa
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Here is an easy tool: IPaddress is the name. http://bluefive.pair.com/updates.htm |
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wickham43
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Camsam wrote: hi wickham43 My Belkin router is ADSL Moem with Built-in Wireless Router 802.11g ver. 1212uk. Another number is F5D7630uk4A. Luckily we can call as long as I call him. Since our IP addresses change every time we boot up we always have to Skype chat first to exchange IPs so it is not a big problem to decide who calls who, but I would like to solve the problem. When I check my IP it gives the main one which changes each time but underneath it says "proxy detected is 213.40.67.66" and this is the same every day. Is this relevant to my problem? Last edited on Tue Jan 3rd, 2006 07:32 am by wickham43 |
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Rene
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Stupid question: I need to reset my modem before settings take effect - same with yours? LAN IP correct? (not different now due to e.g. DHCP) |
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Willem
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Hi Wickam, OK, You sent the screenshot from your router. It seems fine but, is the given IP 192.168.2.1 your local IP from your PC (see ipconfig), or is it the IP from your router what's now filled-in? 192.168.2.X where X is the number from the PC. Willem |
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wickham43
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I have discovered from http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D7630/default.htm that I need a static IP address before portforwarding but this computer was set on automatic. My Belkin router settings showed 192.168.2.1 which was what I used for the port setting but this computer in CMD shows 192.168.2.2 (and my W98 computer shows 192.168.2.3) both on automatic IP. I set a static IP and altered the port setting to suit 192.168.2.2 but my contact still cannot call me. The site above gives my external IP as the proxy address 213.40.67.66 which doesn't seem to alter each time I boot up, not the main external IP of 213.40.144.130 which varies. Which should wigiwigi callers use? I have found another wigiwigi contact with a router who also can make calls but not receive them, so is this a bug? Last edited on Tue Jan 3rd, 2006 11:54 am by wickham43 |
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Willem
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Hi Wickam, Wigi-HQ is not NAT friendly at the moment. Nothing we can do about that now, the next release will have more friendly options however. It is a fact that Port Forwarding is only useful when setting your PC's to static IP. Logic, isn't it ? It is also more difficult to call with an IP, when this changes often... Also logic. That a lot of people are also using all kind of software firewalls is also logic, but what's very important: that they need to set therein Wigi to be able to use in- and outgoing ports. Try to disable the firewall temporary and check. Otherwise, just wait till the connection server of Wigi1 is up and running again. |
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wickham43
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I think my router settings are OK now as my Australian contact made a good call to me but my call to him failed probably because his router has not been re-set. The call we did have failed after a few minutes but at least the connection was made. |
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Camsam
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you wrote Mon Jan 2nd, 2006 22:25 :
...the 192.168.2.1 ...by default this ip address is the standard communication IP to your Belkin router to add or change any it seems you have forward your own router IP to external don't forward the 192.168.2.1 to external !!! check that !!!
don't use: the proxy or gateway IP you will get from your ISP ...only your WAN IP . the rules to forward: any or WAN IP:with PORT --> to your local IP:with PORT (incoming) your local IP:with PORT --> to any or WAN IP:with PORT (outgoing) .. your Belkin router maybe there is a newer firmware or good manual http://web.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5D7630uk4A&lang=1&mode= Last edited on Tue Jan 3rd, 2006 11:36 pm by Camsam |
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wickham43
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All OK now for me with this computer's IP of 192.168.2.2 and port 43690 set. NZ calls good both ways. Australian can call me but I cannot call him but his router has not been set for portforwarding yet. Thanks for your help. I now have to set my W98 computer to static IP although it works OK, it still seems to be allocated 192.168.2.3 which is different to XP computer. We have tried mulwigi1 but prefer wig_HQ which has better resolution. Wigiwigiy server still down. |
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